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Senate bill S 510 vote imminent – procedural vote passes 74-25

Mike Adams
Natural News
Thursday, November 18, 2010

(NaturalNews) U.S. Senate Bill S 510 is now on the Senate floor where a vote is expected shortly. Yesterday, the Motion to Invoke Cloture passed on a vote of 74-25 (see how they voted, below), sending the bill forward for a final vote perhaps as early as today.

US Senate offices are experiencing a huge backlash of grassroots opposition to the bill — called the Food Safety Modernization Act — as virtually every health freedom organization, family farm group and even dietary supplement companies have aligned to oppose this new bill. It is being called “The most dangerous bill in United States history” and would thrust America into a new Dark Ages of FDA tyranny over seeds, foods, herbs, gardens and nutritional supplements. (http://naturalnews.com/030418_Food_…)

Opposition to the bill has been widespread. For example, the John Birch Society issued this alert yesterday:

Senate Bill 510 has already passed committee and is on the Senate calendar. It calls for enhanced expansion of FDA authority over small farms, ranches, and other food producers, establishes burdensome administrative requirements for large and small operations, and arbitrary legal authority to recall “unsafe medications,” the definition of which is not clearly established; if in line with the global standard set by Codex Alimentarius, “unsafe medications” could extend to dietary supplements and herbal products. There is language that currently exempts from heavy regulation dietary supplement manufacturers and packagers. However, the FDA and its agents are notorious for interpreting regulations their own way.

Take Action: Click here to sign the John Birch Society petition opposing S.510.

The John Birch Society insists that “My right to produce, distribute, and consume the foods of my choice is part of my right to life and liberty under the Constitution.”



I happen to agree. The FDA has no business telling us we can’t buy raw milk, or we can’t save our own garden seeds or grow organic produce and sell it at the farmer’s market.

How they voted so far

Here’s how the senators voted on the motion to send S.510 to a full floor vote: (this is a procedural vote to move the bill forward so that it can be voted on for final passage)

Who voted in FAVOR of moving S.510 forward

Akaka (D-HI)
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Begich (D-AK)
Bennet (D-CO)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Brown (R-MA)
Burr (R-NC)
Burris (D-IL)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Coons (D-DE)
Corker (R-TN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagan (D-NC)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
LeMieux (R-FL)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (D-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Thune (R-SD)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (D-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)


Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Graham (R-SC)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Nelson (D-NE)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Wicker (R-MS)

All of you who live in states where senators voted in favor of this need to call your U.S. Senate offices today — right now — and urge them to oppose this nefarious bill.

Call the Capitol Switchboard and ask to be directly connected to your Senator’s office: 202-224-3121.

We are about to lose our food freedoms over the bill, because unless more pressure is brought to bear, it looks like this bill will soon pass — and we will be thrust into a new era of FDA tyranny over the food supply.


12 Facts That Will Blow Your Mind – Federal Employees And Members Of Congress Are Getting Rich While Those Of Us Who Pay Their Salaries Suffer

The Economic Collapse
Nov 18, 2010

Do you remember the days when getting elected to Congress or choosing to work for the government was referred to as “public service”?  The idea was that you would be making a sacrifice for the greater good of the country.  Well, those days are long gone.  Today, getting elected to Congress or working for the federal government is a good way to get rich.  Median household income in the United States fell from $51,726 in 2008 to $50,221 in 2009, and yet the personal wealth of members of Congress and the salaries of federal workers (especially at the higher levels) continue to explode.  A lot of corrupt politicians and federal fat cats are raking in stunning amounts of cash, and we are the ones paying the bill.  There is certainly nothing wrong with making a lot of money, but does it seem right that so many of our “public servants” are getting filthy rich while so many of the rest of us are barely getting by?

Posted below are 12 facts that will blow your mind.  Most Americans have no idea just how obscenely wealthy many members of Congress are, and most Americans are totally clueless about how cushy some of these U.S. government jobs are.  If there is one place in America where the good times are still rolling (other than Wall Street), it would have to be Washington D.C.

Members of Congress and employees of the government are supposed to work for us.  We are the ones who pay their salaries.  But today, they are the ones “living the dream” while most of the rest of us scramble just to survive from month to month….

#1 According to an article in the Hill, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s net worth soared from $13.7 million in 2008 to $21.7 million in 2009.

#2 In 2005, 7420 federal workers were making $150,000 or more per year.  In 2010, a whopping 82,034 federal workers are making $150,000 or more per year.  That is more than a tenfold increase in just five years.

#3 More than half of the members of the U.S. Congress are millionaires.

#4 The total compensation that the U.S. government workforce is going to take in this year is approximately 447 billion dollars.

#5 Today, all members of Congress earn at least $175,000.  This is far, far more than the average American makes.

#6 60 percent of the federal government workforce is represented by labor unions.

#7 The median wealth of a U.S. Senator in 2009 was 2.38 million dollars.

#8 In 2005, the U.S. Department of Defense had just nine civilians earning $170,000 or more.  When Barack Obama took office, the U.S. Department of Defense had 214 civilians earning $170,000 or more.  In June 2010, the U.S. Department of Defense had 994 civilians earning $170,000 or more.

#9 Insider trading is perfectly legal for members of the U.S. Congress – and they refuse to pass a law that would change that.

#10 According to a recent study conducted by the Heritage Foundation, federal workers earn 30 to 40 percent more money on average than their counterparts in the private sector.

#11 When you factor in such things as retirement and health care benefits, the compensation gap between federal workers and private sector employees gets even larger.  Just consider the following quote from the Heritage Foundation study mentioned above….

“Including non-cash benefits adds to this disparity. The average private-sector employer pays $9,882 per employee in annual benefits, while the federal government pays an average of $32,115 per employee.”

#12 The personal wealth of members of the U.S. Congress collectively increased by more than 16 percent from 2008 to 2009.

So can the U.S. government continue to afford to shell out nearly half a trillion dollars to federal employees every single year?

Of course not.

The truth is that the U.S. government is flat broke and yet most of our politicians still seem extremely resistant to consider anything that would even slow down the wild spending that has been going on.

So what do we get for the $447 billion that we are spending on federal workers every single year?

Not a whole lot – unless you consider paperwork, bureaucracy and a gigantic pile of ridiculous regulations to be a good thing.

America needs a fundamental shift in attitude.  Instead of expecting a “nanny state” to take care of us, we should desperately try to reshape the federal government into a much smaller entity that will finally get off our backs.

We have been living beyond our means for decades, and we cannot afford to pay for this bloated behemoth of a government for much longer.

Hopefully Americans will wake up and do something about this nonsense before it is too late.  Because right now the federal government has become an out of control monster that is gobbling up everything in sight.

“Spiritual Wickedness In High Places”

Chuck Baldwin
Nov 18, 2010

Almost immediately after Adam’s fall, Lucifer and his minions collaborated with evil men to usurp God’s authority and sovereignty. And nowhere is God more sovereign than in the heart and conscience of man. In the spirit world, the First Commandment (“Thou shalt have no other gods before me”) is the battleground that is most fought over. The war for man’s heart and soul is never-ending.

Nimrod was the first would-be tyrant to try and bring the world into a global “New World Order.” His handiwork produced the Tower of Babel, which brought about a cataclysmic judgment from Jehovah. However, while Nimrod was the first globalist to try and unify the nations against God, he was certainly not the last. The Pharaohs, Darius, Artaxerxes, Cyrus, Alexander, Nebuchadnezzar, the Caesars, and hundreds like them have all brought their tyrannical rule over the hearts of men. And their ideas and passions are as alive and active in the world today as ever.

With every would-be world tyrant, there is one constant: the unholy marriage between a supranational government and Big Religion. If Jehovah God made anything clear in the Mosaic model of government, it was the fact that–until Christ Himself comes to occupy both offices–the offices of Priest and King were to be eternally separate. At least one Old Testament Jewish king learned that lesson the hard way.

Yet, Big Government and Big Religion have always come together for the purpose of enslaving the masses. The devilish duo of Big Government and Big Religion killed the Old Testament prophets. They hung Jesus on the cross and persecuted the early Church. They murdered masses during the Dark Ages; they managed the Holocaust; and their obnoxious offspring are still at work today. This criminal cabal has been the bane of genuine faith and personal liberty since the beginning of time.

When Colonial America fired that shot heard around the world and fought their way to independence, they broke free, not only from the political domination of the Crown, but also from the religious domination of a State Church. No longer would citizens be required to join a particular church in order to hold public office. No longer would citizens be required to financially support churches and institutions they deemed to be offensive to their spiritual convictions. No longer could a religious institution use the power and force of civil government to subjugate men to its tenets and, yes, tentacles. Indeed, the apostate kingdom created by Constantine’s spiritual whoredom ended at the eastern shore of America!

And dare I say that I am proud of my Anabaptist forebears for helping to embed the principle of religious liberty into American law and jurisprudence? Indeed, I am! What many Americans do not know (and what many militant secularists refuse to acknowledge) is that it was the influence of the Colonial Baptists–most notably, the Baptist minister John Leland–that was most responsible for the First Amendment being added to the US Constitution.

Therefore, it is more than disturbing when I see evangelical Christians being seduced by the ancient Big Government/Big Religion whorish union today. How can any true Gospel preacher accept federal Faith-Based Initiative monies, except that he has either lost all understanding of what freedom truly means, or is willing to sacrifice the sacred principles of liberty upon the altar of his own selfish interests? How can any true Gospel preacher not realize that Big Religion has always conspired with tyrannical governmental forces against the true Gospel message? Why are they so blind to these devilish conspiracies? At the highest levels of virtually every major religion, the conspiracy to hijack truth and enslave the masses is constantly at work.

This is what the Apostle Paul warned about in Ephesians 6:12. “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”

Of course, the “rulers of the darkness of this world” are demonic. But it is also an absolute certainty that these demonic forces accomplish their devilish deeds through evil men who are given to “spiritual wickedness in high places.”

Was not the spiritual netherworld complicit in helping to construct Nimrod’s Tower of Babel? Was not spiritual wickedness at work when Pharaoh murdered the little children of the Hebrews? Were not dark principalities at work when Nebuchadnezzar ordered everyone to bow to the image of the Babylonian leader? When the Lord Jesus called Jewish King Herod a “fox,” was not He acknowledging Herod’s complicity with evil? Were not spiritual powers aiding and abetting the Jewish Sanhedrin when they moved the crowd to crucify the Son of God? When the early Church was being persecuted, was not spiritual wickedness at work? When nonconforming Christians were thrown to the lions and sawn asunder, were not their tormentors influenced by these same rulers of darkness? Of course they were!

Then, why is it so difficult for modern Christians–especially our pastors and preachers–to understand that this unholy union of Big Government and Big Religion is as evil and sinful today as it ever was? Why are they unwilling to recognize that the same devilish system that plagued the Church throughout the ages–suspended only temporarily by the successful revolution for American independence–is rearing its ugly head again? Why are they unwilling to believe that many of America’s leaders (from both parties) routinely give themselves to luciferian rituals, such as those annual dances around the fire at the Bohemian Grove? Why is it so hard to believe that we have leaders (from both parties) who have given themselves to dark, secret societies, such as Skull and Bones? Why are they not suspicious when certain religious schools and institutions repeatedly produce many of the leaders (from both parties) who seem to universally take America down the same path of globalism?

As most Christians should know, The Beast of Revelation is as much a SYSTEM as it is a person. As the Apostle John warned, the “spirit of antichrist… even now already is it in the world.” (I John 4:3) He also warned, “Even now are there many antichrists.” (I John 2:18)

Any Big Government/Big Religion system that seeks to bring nations into global unity, enshrine a politically correct theology of universalism, establish Church/State uniformity, and marginalize independent, nonconformist ideology is nothing more than the emergence of another Tower of Babel or Beast-like system! And, dear Christian friend, has it occurred to you that our central government in Washington, D.C., is currently engaged in all of the above?

Both political parties–including most of our national leaders and news media–actively promote globalism; universalism is, without a doubt, the unofficial–but clearly understood–national religion; and anyone who holds nonconformist views (i.e., pro-life, Jesus-only theology, anti-UN, anti-illegal immigration, questioning official government explanations of national tragedies, etc.) is being viciously ridiculed, impugned, and marginalized by virtually everyone in the national press corps and central government. Yes, I am saying it, THE BEAST IS EMERGING IN WASHINGTON, D.C.!

The powers that be in both Big Government and Big Religion want to control both our hearts and our minds. They cannot tolerate dissent. Mind you: they do not care if one is Republican or Democrat, because at the national level, both major parties are marching in the same beastly direction. They do not care if one is conservative or liberal, because the leaders of both camps are, likewise, marching in lockstep to the tune being played by The Beast. They do not care if one is Jewish, Catholic, or Protestant, because at the highest levels, these religions are committing whoredom with The Beast.

If a pastor or preacher is going to be true to his calling today, he must be willing to adopt the philosophy of the late, great Charles Haddon Spurgeon, who said, “The more prominent you are in Christ’s service, the more certain are you to be the butt of calumny [slander]. I have long ago said farewell to my character. I lost it in the earlier days of my ministry by being a little more zealous than suited a slumbering age. And I have never been able to regain it except in the sight of Him who judges all the earth, and in the hearts of those who love me for my work’s sake.”

Any desire for promotion, pleasure, riches, or fame will quickly make one a servant of The Beast. And, I’m afraid, that is exactly what many of today’s pastors and preachers have become.

The fight for independence was as much for the freedom of the heart and mind as it was for the freedom of a State or nation. In fact, one cannot enslave the latter until he first enslaves the former. And this is what is currently at stake: the freedom of the heart and soul to be governed by God and no other! And this battle will never be won–at least not nationally–as long as Christians and pastors are unwilling to recognize the enemy for what it
is: “spiritual wickedness in high places.”

Is America In Danger Of Turning Into One Gigantic Hellhole?

The American Dream
Nov 7, 2010

What in the world is happening to America?  Are there still places in America where liberty and freedom are respected, where taxes are low, where regulations are not suffocating, where the people are friendly and where Americans can be free to live an independent lifestyle?  In a previous article entitled “What Is The Best U.S. State To Move To If You Want To Insulate Yourself From The Coming Economic Meltdown?“, I asked readers what they thought were some of the best places in America to move to for people wishing to ride out the coming economic collapse.  Well, the response was overwhelmingly negative.  Readers were even highly negative about states that have been very popular for “independent thinking” Americans to move to such as Montana, Idaho, Alaska, Washington and Colorado.  So are there any “good” places in America left?  Or is America in danger of turning into one gigantic hellhole?

The truth is that a substantial number of Americans can see what is happening to our economy and to this country and they want to get out of places such as Los Angeles, New York City and Detroit.  Life in many of the biggest U.S. cities is becoming increasingly difficult.  Rampant unemployment seems to be everywhere and more Americans than ever are finding themselves having to take government handouts just to survive.  In most major U.S. cities the housing prices are ridiculous, the traffic is horrendous, crime is starting to rise and taxes just seem to keep increasing year after year.  Not only that, but in the event of a total economic collapse, many U.S. cities will descend into complete and utter chaos.  Just remember what happened to New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.  When Americans start running out of food most of them will totally lose it.

But even if a total economic collapse does not happen any time soon, an increasing number of Americans are seeking to embrace a lifestyle that is more independent of the system.  The truth is that it is really hard to grow your own food or gather your own water if you live in or around most major U.S. cities.  More Americans each year are discovering that an “off the grid” lifestyle has a lot of benefits.

So are there still places in the United States which are accommodating to those seeking to live a more independent lifestyle?

Well, readers of this column have had negative things to say about areas from coast to coast.  Of course some of the comments may be attempts to scare “carpetbaggers” off, but many of the other comments seem like very honest assessments.

The truth is that “the grass is not always greener” in another area of the country.  It can be incredibly difficult to pick up and move to another state – especially if you do not know anyone there.

The following are excerpts from recent comments that readers have left about states where they have lived….



Alaska, it takes a special person to live there, outside of Anchorage.  The Californians fit right in there in that piece of crap town..If you live in rural Alaska GET READY FOR MAJOR COLD, -30 TO -50 OR WORSE, short growing seasons. June to Sept, the gardens cant be planted in the ground until like July, as the soil is too cold. The water coming from the well is 34 degrees.  So hot houses are used and above ground gardens are quite common.

Gas now is from 3.75 to 8 bucks depending on where you are, other than Anchorage. You have to heat 9 months out of the year usually. Bugs are plentiful, especially big ass black flies and mosquitos.


Take advice of others and move to Seattle, Mississippi, Idaho or get a boat in Florida. But for God’s sake DON’T come to Alaska. I demand you remove Alaska from your list. Alaska cold, no light, no food, no nothing……..stay DOWN THERE! Especially if you are an Environmentalist, it is not what you see on Discovery Channel. You’ll just end up starving in old bus or eaten by a bear.


Don’t even think about Alaska. Locals outside of Anchorage don’t like strangers moving in and Anchorage is like a little Seattle. When the economy collapses Anchorage will be a hell hole.

If you’re a hippy, environmentalist type……….you are/will be the least liked; many want to shoot you now.



I have lived all over the country, and was raised in Montana. I can assure you, the small towns are very clannish, detest Californians because of their arrogance and affinity for posted signs.


warning stay away from montana…

the locals here and their kids prey upon the new fish here and their kids!

how long you’ve lived here is BIG with the locals and the even post it in the paper!

buy a gun if you move here and let your neighbors know you have it!

they will or their kids will harass you and rob you here… stay away from west glacier and columbia falls montana. WHITE TRASH! AND METH HEADS AND ALCOLHOLICS DUI’S!







Idaho is full of skinhead, methhead types who are VERY territorial. If you are not a native, you will get hurt.


Tried to move to Idaho once with teaching job. One job I was turned down for (Kooskia) and the other job I turned down (Cor de Lane) because of its proximity to neo-Nazis and white supremists (aka FBI moles).


Idaho is full to the brim w/ hostile provincials with absolutely no sense of fashion.  Stay away.  Too much snow.

Washington State


Do I need to tell you that this is a Nanny state? Like the Seattle liberals, the politicians all have a very elevated sense of entitlement. The voters have been in tax revolt status since the bunny huggers have killed farming and fishing on the West side, the boom & bust cycle of the economy has become aggravated. If they succeed in killing the timber industry, it will only get worse. The Boeing Company has moved their headquarters out of Washington state, and has sworn that they will build no new production facitlies here, due to the antagonistic taxation and regulatory environments. Many smaller businesses have followed suit. I’m looking for them to drag the “Will the last person leaving Seattle please turn off the lights?” billboard out of mothballs soon. I can’t wait. We need to drain the cesspool.

As for me, my people were pioneers out here. I have roots and don’t feel much like moving, but if it gets much pinker around here, I just might. Where will I go? Someplace I can breathe free.


I live in western WA near Seattle and make the best of it – decent gun laws, no income tax. Over the past 2 years I’ve been hot and cold about the radical step of becoming an expat family. Until it looks like we can’t go on anymore I’m staying right here. Still, taxation is becoming very onerous. I now pay $706/month in property taxes (large view home) and when I study accounts of expats in Latin America soaking up the sun, exercising, growing amazing food, and paying $30/month property taxes, it is very tempting. America has become a very, very unhealthy place to live with adultered food/water and loads of uncertainty and stress. People here are self centered, rude and often quite hostile. Just drive I-5 between Tacoma and Seattle a few days a week and observe the underlying rage and sheer stupidity. I won’t even ride my bike anymore because people want to literally harm you with their vehicle for no particular reason (medication rage perhaps?). There’s some great people around, but greatly outnumbered by sheep and ‘me-first’ and shallow consumer types. This area will be a slaughterhouse if SHTF given the number of gangs, illegals and entitlement folks. Honesty, I wouldn’t rule out survival cannibalism should the worst case transpire.



Do not choose Arkansas. We choose Scott County Arkansas because of the low population (12,000 in entire county, large number of churches 63 in county and beautiful scenery). Over 40% of the people here are on public assistance of one kind or another and the people are extremely clannish. There is a huge drug problem here (people selling their pain medication and meth labs) the police have paid informants who continue to commit crimes while being paid by the county to inform on other people. There has not been any large drug bust or labs taken down in the eight years we have lived here. The only place to work in this county is Tyson which pays 9+ an hour. The sales tax in this county is 9.65% on non-food and 5.65% on food. Real estate taxes are increasing rapidly.

Arkansas is a anti-business state, they do not want out of towners to come here and open businesses. Choose another state, the people here have not desire to improve themselves, life for their families or the future for their children.



If I could afford to leave Colorado I would. It has turned into California East. I came here 20 years ago to get ready for what is happening now. In the 90′s we had an influx of Californians that has ruined this state. I chose my property very carefully, water, ability to grow (with greenhouse), proximity to a decent sized city with good hospitals and shopping but far enough away so as to be in the country. My wife and I did everything right but failed to take in the changing political climate. Don’t make the same mistake we did.

A Dodgy Bloke:

Interesting you may want to stay away from Colorado, over the last several years we have had people from California move here in hordes. They are creating what they have fled from here we have just elected out own version of Moon Beam as Governor.



Stay out of Wyoming! It is always windy and a bunch of crackheads! No jobs above minimum wage.


Areas near Yellowstone would be deadly if the caldera goes supervolcano (maybe next year, maybe 1000 years). Be more than 600 miles from that thing.



We Californian’s suffer a lot of bashing – it’s well deserved. Please keep in mind, that we’re not all leftist/socialist/bleeding heart crybabies. Some of us would like to move and wouldn’t want to see our state’s policies follow us. Some of us love guns and low taxes and despise social safety nets. I look at my neighborhood and can count on one hand the number of us who actually work. Disability has become a career move here. Sad, really sad. Unfortunately, I’m not sure any place in Amerika is immune.


S. Barringer:

I notice that Michigan is not on the list. Most likely because they tax everyone to death here. If you’re not losing your home or business this month, you will be in the future. But, residents are wising up and saying no to new taxes, even for so-called “essential” services like police, which is not really essential if you have the sense to know how to defend yourself and what you have. Many counties and townships are saying no to paying for police departments, and they’re closing down.

People are moving out of this state like crazy. I’m going to have to start tracking where they are moving to. This used to be the car capital of the world; now it’s just another ugly industrial wasteland.



Borders Mexico, a lot of wide open spaces, very hot summers, sparse water, little rainfall (the amounts vary), currently being invaded from the south by illegals and from the north, west and east by those who have lost their jobs in states with high taxes (read California, Michigan, New Mexico), takes time to learn to farm here (unusual soil properties), assasin bugs, coral, rattle and copperhead snakes, coyotes, mountain lions, poisonous spiders (you get used to them all over time) many areas very rocky and sparsely wooded.



Maine? There are no jobs here. A great place to “bug out” to but remember it is very cold and snowy in the Winter. Gasoline and heating oil are approaching $3, taxes are high, the infrastructure is crumbling, the state deficit is one billion dollars, the Maine Dept of Transportation is 750 million in the hole.



I live in Vermont. Unless you are of a Libertarian/Anarcho Capitalist persuasion. Please stay away! This state is hard to live in and requires a lot of self sufficiency. I like it that way and don’t really want to see any more whiney city dwellers move here that want to remake this into the New Jersey of the north.



Having spent two years there while in the military, I recommend against Nebraska for three reasons: 1) most residents have a vocabulary of exactly three words — “Go Big Red!”; 2) very nasty winters; 3) income tax is a percentage of federal tax. So if the current rates expire and federal rates jump next year, state taxes will jump in tandem.



The grass is not always greener somewhere else. I tried moving to the VA mountains. Wonderful climate in the Shenandoah Valley but land is astronomical, even a trailer. All the ultra-rich from DC area fled there and lots of alphabet gov’t agencies. There are NO JOBS, period. Nada. It’s ‘Wally Mart’ culture. A bunch of fat, ignorant drunks with no skills. You can’t even get a car fixed. Rent and utilities are less than many places but state tax is high. Health care barely exists. It’s a mean, narrow-minded rabidly fundamentalist tribal culture that hates outsiders, especially Yankees. You may find yourself in danger, not only from the local cops, but your own neighbors. Believe me, no one will help you. I have lived many different places and also other countries, and VA is the meanest place I ever found. They are vengeful, sneaky and backstabbing, even with their own relatives. (I grew up in W.Va. Now, I see why they split off.) If you are a stranger, then they will gang up. I gave up after a few years and went back North where I still had friends and a support system–that is the most important thing.

So what do you think?  Are there any decent places left to move for Americans who are seeking to live a more independent lifestyle?  Please feel free to share your thoughts in the comments section below….

Sen. Rockefeller: FCC Should Take FOX News, MSNBC Off Airwaves

Real Clear Politics
Nov 18, 2010

SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-WV): “There’s a little bug inside of me which wants to get the FCC to say to FOX and to MSNBC: ‘Out. Off. End. Goodbye.’ It would be a big favor to political discourse; our ability to do our work here in Congress, and to the American people, to be able to talk with each other and have some faith in their government and more importantly, in their future.”

Fears of new food crisis as prices soar

By Javier Blas, Commodities Editor

Published: November 17 2010 09:41 | Last updated: November 17 2010 18:18

The bill for global food imports will top $1,000bn this year for the second time ever, putting the world “dangerously close” to a new food crisis, the United Nations said.

The warning by the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organisation adds to fears about rising inflation in emerging countries from China to India. “Prices are dangerously close to the levels of 2007-08,” said Abdolreza Abbassian, an economist at the FAO.

The FAO painted a worrying outlook in its twice-yearly Food Outlook on Wednesday, warning that the world should “be prepared” for even higher prices next year. It said it was crucial for farmers to “expand substantially” production, particularly of corn and wheat in 2011-12 to meet expected demand and rebuild world reserves.

But the FAO said the production response may be limited as rising food prices had made other crops, from sugar to soyabean and cotton, attractive to grow.

“This could limit individual crop production responses to levels that would be insufficient to alleviate market tightness. Against this backdrop, consumers may have little choice but to pay higher prices for their food,” it said.

The agency raised its forecast for the global bill for food to $1,026bn this year, up nearly 15 per cent from 2009 and within a whisker of an all-time high of $1,031bn set in 2008 during the food crisis.

“With the pressure on world prices of most commodities not abating, the international community must remain vigilant against further supply shocks in 2011,” the FAO added. In the 10 years before the 2007-08 food crisis, the global bill for food imports averaged less than $500bn a year.

Hafez Ghanem, FAO assistant director-general, dismissed claims that speculators were behind recent price gains, saying that supply shortages were causing the rise.

Agricultural commodities prices have surged following a series of crop failures caused by bad weather.

The situation was aggravated when top producers such as Russia and Ukraine imposed export restrictions, prompting importers in the Middle East and North Africa to hoard supplies. The weakness of the US dollar, in which most food commodities are denominated, has also contributed to higher prices.

The FAO’s food index, a basket tracking the wholesale cost of wheat, corn, rice, oilseeds, dairy products, sugar and meats, jumped last month to levels last seen at the peak of the 2007-08 crisis. The index rose in October to 197.1 points – up nearly 5 per cent from September.

Agricultural commodities prices have fallen over the past week amid a sell-off in global markets, but analysts and traders continue to expect higher prices in 2011.

Celente: The Government’s Assurance That Body Scanners Are Safe Is Enough To Convince Me They Are Dangerous

Trends Research Institute
Thursday, November 18, 2010

KINGSTON, NY, 17 November 2010 — As opposition to full-body X-ray scanners mounts among aircraft crews and passengers, Gerald Celente, Trends Journal publisher proposes a realistic and rational solution.

With ample evidence indicating that repeated exposure to doses of radiation poses a health risk, and with naked-body scans clearly violating personal privacy, many are opting out for the personal pat-down alternative.

“I am one of those frequent flyers that will opt-out for health concerns,” said Celente.   “The government’s assurance that the scanners are completely safe is alone enough to convince me that they are dangerous.

“Moreover, the fact that full-body scanners were promoted by former Homeland Security Czar Michael Chertoff as the ‘most effective means of detecting hidden explosive devices’ further raises my suspicions,” Celente said.  Following last year’s Christmas Day “Underwear Bomber” episode, Chertoff – who had left Homeland Security to open his own consulting firm – spent the holiday season making the media rounds loudly championing the scanners … while keeping quiet about his firm’s contract with Rapiscan, their manufacturer.  (Furthermore, it was established that the bomber could not have ignited the device with matches or the syringe of accelerant in his possession.  Only an electronic detonator or “extreme heat” could have set it off.)

“In other words,” said Celente, “the entire flying public is being subjected to either radioactive contamination or gross privacy invasion so that Chertoff & Co. can make a profit out of these pernicious machines. The pat-down option, an already invasive procedure, has been dramatically upgraded by the TSA into a flagrant full-body grope.  Making the pat-down so gross is designed to encourage people to go through the scanners rather than get felt up by strangers. It is my contention that this degrading and disgusting practice is about selling machines, not about ensuring security.

The “Celente Solution”: Just as the Government invariably gets everything else wrong, its grope-the-public strategy is upside-down and inside-out, contends Celente.


“As a strictly heterosexual, if I’m going to get groped in an airport – be it in public or private – I want to be groped by a gal. Period!   And, ideally, I would like to choose my groper.  Does the TSA have a ‘Don’t Ask Don’t Tell’ policy,” he asks?  “What twisted TSA/government bureaucrat put in place this guy-gropes-guy policy?  Or are they covertly fostering homosexuality by forcing men to be felt up by other men – all under the guise of security?”

Celente readily acknowledges that his “solution” is male-oriented.  “I’m speaking only for myself and on behalf my guy friends,” said Celente, “not for women. They’ll have to find their own solution.”

Until some such solution is found, citizens of  the “Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave” are going to be subjected to either radiation poisoning or sexual humiliation.

Trendpost: Celente says the TSA policy is trend-significant.  As it stands, it will serve to discourage air travelers, which will take a toll on the slowly recovering business travel and tourist industry.

Holiday destinations within driving distance will attract vacationers who refuse to be scanned or groped.  And America’s airport security practices, already under attack by foreign nations as unnecessary and draconian, will further discourage international travelers.